[Reader-list] [vikalp] Our response to police action against Jashn-e - Azadi
rashneek at gmail.com
Thu Aug 9 09:54:23 IST 2007
Dear Shudda and Yusuf,
While Shudda hasnt cared to reply to my view on screening/non screening of
Jashn-e-Aazadi..for unknown reasons,Yusuf let me make it clear Kashmiri
Pandits are not against the screening,if it was so one just needed to file a
complaint with Censor board and that would have been the end of the story.
Yes Pandits wont be silenced,for we have as much right to freedom of speech
as anyone else has unless you think otherwise.We oppose the movie not
because what Kak shows.Thats his choice.He can back Yasin Malik or Osama bin
Laden or Prabhakaran for that matter.
That he has lied about the numbers of Pandits killed and forced to flee is
our problem.That he has appropriated content is our problem.He could have
simply ignored but rubbing salt to our wounds isnt gentlemanly.
That he is a supporter of Azadi is no sin,but that he overtly or covertly
supports terrorists as Yasin Malik and shows them as Robin Hoods(and says
they meet PM,as if it makes it legitimate and absolves them of all sins,even
Prabhakaran met Rajiv Gandhi) is our problem.
As a Kashmiri I have another issue,is Yasin Malik the only leader among
separatists?Why he alone was the pivot/central character (yes Azam and
Geelani were shown but compare their presence to Yasin's).We have always
opposed Yasin Malik because he killed innocent human beings.So it is just
that he happens to be Kak's hero is a mere coincidence.
So Suddha,while I await your comments/reply....Yusuf it is better to engage
Pandits into a meaningful discussion rather than try and brush them under
the carpet and find stealth ways of screening/watching the movie.
On 8/8/07, Yousuf <ysaeed7 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Dear Shuddha
> While internet does provide an alternative platform
> for showing/watching what the moral police does not
> allow us to show/watch, is it yet an alternative to a
> real screening? The screening of documentary films
> itself is a limited and elite practice, the
> downloading of hi-def video (of large films) would be
> an even more elusive thing for most people (in our
> midst). Will it serve the purpose of the film. Will it
> silence the Kashmiri pundits who are against the film?
> The censor/govt. is not against an individual watching
> a film, they are against the social practice of
> watching a film. And if they want to, very soon
> they'll control the Youtubes and the Vuzes too. I
> don't know why, but I get a feeling that we are all
> skirting the real issue here. We are continuously
> defending our right to show/watch a film, and even
> seeking technological solutions to beat the censors.
> But no one is interested in a dialogue with the
> section of people who have a problem with the film.
> Why do we insist on watching the film only "amongst
> ourselves", safe and secure from those who don't like
> us. Isn't it like being high-tech ostriches.
> --- Shuddhabrata Sengupta <shuddha at sarai.net> wrote:
> > Dear all,
> > This is in response to Saba, Shaina and Anjali and
> > Jayshankar and
> > Jabeen's mail. I agree with Jabeen that the ALF
> > comments should be
> > endorsed by Films for Freedom.
> > I also agree with the need expressed by everyone
> > else for creative ways
> > of circumventing interrupted and prevented
> > screenings, and to queer the
> > whole debate about what a public can be understood
> > as being.
> > Shaina wrote:
> > > I wonder what would have happened if there were no
> > DVD's in question.
> > > No hard drive either. just an internet connection
> > (and a cached film) --
> > > what would the cops do...?
> > > we would need to know IT act and cyber laws better
> > ...(maybe not) but im
> > > willing to argue that its not a crime to make a
> > presentation to an audience
> > > pulling out some material from the internet.
> > (where the film can legally
> > > reside, away from national boundaries and
> > identities)
> > >
> > This is a very interesting thought and I think it is
> > well worth a try.
> > One excellent place to upload 'Jashn-e-Azaadi' or
> > any such film in the
> > future which might face such difficulties is -
> > Azureus and its web
> > platform - Vuze
> > http://azureus.sourceforge.net/
> > http://www.vuze.com
> > http://www.vuze.com/content/FeaturedContent.html
> > Think of this as the 'Youtube' of full length, high
> > quality, feature
> > films, experimental films and documentaries and
> > other video entitities.
> > Vuze has an excellent 'Documentaries' selection
> > freely available for
> > download (see under 'Categories')
> > All a filmmaker needs to do is to register (as you
> > would in Flickr or
> > any such service) and upload their content over a
> > high bandwidth
> > connection, with 'standard definition' or 'high
> > definition' content
> > (the site has excellent 'how tos') and you are on.
> > Anyone can download
> > any film. I regularly download more than two hour
> > long films from this
> > site and this is done easily and without problems
> > (you have to download
> > the latest version of 'Vuze/Azureus' as your p2p
> > client).
> > Imagine, 'Jashn-e-Azaadi' or any such film -
> > available on a good,
> > trustworthy space, safe and secure from censor
> > boards and the Mumbai
> > Police or any self righteous busybodies, and
> > hundreds, maybe thousands
> > of people hitting 'download' in Mumbai, or anywhere,
> > and showing the
> > film to small groups of people off their computers
> > and or laptops. There
> > could be small, mobile, 'guerrila' screenings if you
> > like. Involve
> > students, volunteers, anyone. Announce screening
> > days, spread the
> > message through mobiles and mailing lists, and your
> > 'public' expands by
> > a factor of who knows what.
> > And the public-private partnership of the censorious
> > can sit and twiddle
> > their thumbs.
> > It is possible. 14th and 15th August are coming,
> > they are celebrated or
> > mourned (as you like) across the subcontinent as the
> > day that the south
> > asian landmass embraced in different ways the
> > albatross of the nation
> > state. Perhas this would be as good an occasion as
> > any to celebrate a
> > different kind of sovereignty - a mobile republic(s)
> > of moving images.
> > What about a dispersed - upload-download-screening
> > party of lots of
> > indedependent documentaries, with perhaps a special
> > dispersed screening
> > of 'Jashn-e-Azaadi'
> > That could be a real Jashn, and it's the kind of
> > Azaadi I enjoy and endorse
> > best
> > Shuddha
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