[Reader-list] Some information about Kashmir
mrsg at vsnl.com
Tue Aug 14 17:15:48 IST 2007
1.What is called Jammu & Kashmir (J&K) was just the kingdom of a specific
dynasty. J&K is not Kashmir at all.
2. J&K is a large kingdom with totally separate regions like Baltistan,
Gilgit, Hunza, Kashmir Valley, Jammu, Ladakh, Poonch, Kistwar and other some
areas. Kashmir valley, the homeland of the Kashmiris is a small part of J&K,
hardly 20% of J&K. Each region has separate language, culture and three
major religion Islam, Buddhism and Hinduism followed in different areas
3. Islamic Residents of this tiny part of J&K want to grab the whole area in
the name of liberation of Kashmir which is nothing but suppression of right
of self determination of other people.
4. Kashmiris can only demand azadi for their small valley only.
5. Kasmiri is an official language under Indian Constitution. Though Kashmir
has no Urdu-speaking region.
but in Kashmir, like Pakistan, official language is Urdu.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Yousuf" <ysaeed7 at yahoo.com>
To: <vikalp at yahoogroups.com>; "sarai list" <reader-list at sarai.net>
Sent: Monday, August 13, 2007 10:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Reader-list] [vikalp] Our response to...
> I agree with you - the efforts of stopping a screening
> are not right - the group of people who are against
> this film are certainly a desparate lot, probably
> because no one seems to be listening to them (as
> someone among them said "the film rubs salt with their
> wounds"). But someone needs to take an initiative to
> create a congenial atmosphere where they can probably
> be invited formally for a screening and a discussion.
> Why don't we make an invitation right on this forum
> (or Sarai-list etc.) to the group of people who are
> against the film, to come and join us for a "peaceful"
> screening and a more civilized debate where issues can
> be discussed in a more friendly and fruitful manner.
> And let us see how is the response. I think some of
> those protesting against the film did say on the Sarai
> list that they are NOT against the showing of the
> film. So let us start an online poll or petition
> (primarily for those against the film) to find whether
> they are seriously interested in a healthy screening
> and dialogue or not. It may be of benefit to everyone.
> --- Saba Dewan <sabadewan at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Dear Yousuf,
>> I agree with you that we need to hear out and
>> respond to the best of our
>> abilities peoples' objections to our film. However I
>> do think that you are
>> blurring the boundaries between people's right to
>> protest against a
>> film/painting/book they find offensive and their
>> mode of protest. Few film
>> makers would have a problem about letting people in
>> to a screening and
>> engaging with them in a critical debate - AFTER THE
>> FILM IS OVER. Come and
>> watch my film, rip it apart if you must post
>> screening and if even then if
>> it continues to rankle go ahead and put your point
>> of view across in as many
>> public foras as you can. Write, paint, make a film
>> or just talk to other
>> like minded people and come up with ways of
>> democratic protest. Whether I
>> agree or not with your point of view I have no
>> problems with this at all .
>> But if on the other hand you choose to protest by
>> wanting to disrupt the
>> screening of a film (and in most cases succeeding) -
>> how democratic is that
>> ? As I see it this amounts to violating freedom of
>> expression along with a
>> bankruptcy of an alternate point of view. The irony
>> is that in most cases
>> people who come baying for stopping a film have
>> actually not even seen it
>> for themselves. What kind of debate is possible in
>> such a scenario? And
>> whose freedom of expression is to be protected here
>> [Non-text portions of this message have been
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